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EP344 - Alan Hirsch Talks the Role of Digital in Incarnational Ministry

<p>Join Jeff Reed (theChurch.Digital), Jesse Carbo (Digital Missions Project), and missiologist Alan Hirsch (5Q/5G) for a groundbreaking live stream conversation that reimagines incarnational ministry for the digital age. In a world where people grieve on Facebook, wrestle with d...

PublishedJune 19, 2025
Duration1 hr 6 min
EP344 - Alan Hirsch Talks the Role of Digital in Incarnational Ministry
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The Role of Digital in Incarnational Ministry

Jeff Reed

Welcome back to the Church Digital Podcast. I'm here with Jesse Carbo from Digital Missions Project and the one and only Alan Hirsch. We're having a groundbreaking conversation about incarnational ministry in the digital age. Alan, welcome.

Alan Hirsch

Thanks, Jeff. This is a conversation I've been wanting to have for a while.

Jeff Reed

So Alan, incarnational ministry is about "moving into the neighborhood" — living among the people you're trying to reach. How does that translate to digital spaces?

Alan Hirsch

Well, here's the thing. The incarnation is the central motif of Christian mission. God didn't send a message from heaven — God became human. God moved into the neighborhood, as Eugene Peterson paraphrased it. Now, the question is: if people are living significant portions of their lives online — grieving on Facebook, wrestling with doubt in Reddit threads, seeking prayer in Instagram DMs — then the digital world IS a neighborhood.

Jesse Carbo

And that's exactly what we're seeing in the Digital Missions Project. People are having their most vulnerable moments online. They're sharing things they would never share in a church building.

Platforms as Porches, Not Pulpits

Alan Hirsch

Here's where I want to push the church. We have to stop treating digital platforms like pulpits — places where we broadcast our message at people. We need to start treating them like porches — places where we sit, listen, engage in real conversation, and build genuine relationships.

Alan Hirsch

The incarnational impulse is about presence, proximity, and powerlessness. It's about entering someone else's world on their terms. So when we approach digital ministry, the question isn't "How can we get our content in front of more eyeballs?" The question is "How can we be present with people in their actual lived experience online?"

Jeff Reed

That's a paradigm shift for most churches. They think of digital as a distribution channel.

Alan Hirsch

Exactly. And that's why most church digital strategy fails to create genuine connection. Content is not community. Broadcasting is not incarnation. But relational presence — showing up consistently in someone's digital life with genuine care — that IS incarnational.

Practical Steps for Digital Incarnation

Jesse Carbo

So what does this look like practically? How does a church move from broadcasting to being present?

Alan Hirsch

First, you have to understand the culture of the platform. Every digital space has its own norms, its own language, its own etiquette. You wouldn't show up in a foreign country and immediately start preaching in your own language, right? You'd learn the local customs first.

Alan Hirsch

Second, you lead with listening. Spend time understanding what people are actually struggling with before you offer answers. Third, you build relationships before you build an audience. The incarnation was about one person at a time. Jesus had twelve, not twelve million.

Jeff Reed

This reimagines the whole framework. Thank you, Alan. This has been genuinely groundbreaking.

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